New to SquareState? Learn how to play here.
Wanna see your ad here? email ads@... you know the rest.



The Progressive Political Blog for Colorado
(HOME)

[mobile edition]
Got a hot tip?


SquareState Ads


About
The progressive community blog on all things Colorado. Blogging since 6/17/2005.

You're encouraged to join. This blog is what we make it.

About/Disclaimer

by: jpolis

02/17/08 @ 05:47:29 PM MST


Two weeks ago, conservative columnist and member of the Rocky Mountain News Editorial Board Vincent Carroll attacked the "Medicare-for-all" universal health care proposal which you can view on my website.

This week, the Rocky Mountain News ran my response.

It's important to address the misconceptions regarding universal healthcare at all turns.

In this blog I will address:

1) Conservative populist attacks on the wealthy to disparage universal healthcare and distract from the actual issues

2) The bogeyman of rationing

jpolis :: Conservative columnist Vincent Carroll attacks Jared Polis's single-payer health care plan
Fixation on economic status

In my response in the Rocky Mountain News, which they were kind enough to run, I debunk the fallacy that universal healthcare will lead to more rationing. I decided to write this blog to address the issue of class bias and to further expose the straw-man argument of "rationing."

From time to time, I get unusual reactions from some on the left who seem to resent my business success; this is typically coupled with a grudging admiration from those on the right (who can't seem to figure out why I'm not more conservative than I am).
In the past, conservative columnist Vincent Carroll has expressed admiration for my success in creating businesses and making money, and, even more meaningfully to me still has been his praise of my most difficult entrepreneurial accomplishment: starting a public charter school serving at-risk youth that now has four locations and serves a thousand students. Unfortunately in his recent column, Carroll buries the material elements of his disagreement with me on the issue of universal single-payer healthcare with cheap shots at my economic status and claims that the wealthy can afford the roll of the dice of a universal health plan.

Carroll in the Rocky Mountain News:

If you're as rich as Jared Polis, you'll enjoy the world's best health care for the rest of your life no matter what happens to the system on which the rest of us rely. You can afford to roll the dice with a "national single payer health care system," which is what the Democratic candidate for the 2nd District congressional seat has announced he favors.

Carroll's uses the phrase "roll of the dice" in an attempt to invoke fear and uncertainty about systemic healthcare reform. Yet every member of the European Union has universal national healthcare. By global standards of proven methods to improve health, it is our nation that is the outlying experiment; Our current system is indeed a dice-roll that directly affects both the estimated 50,000,000 Americans who live every day without healthcare in our great nation, as well as the rest of us who currently pay for the costs of the uninsured in an extremely inefficient manner.

There will always be wealthy people in our society. Over the past decade, I have worked to provide hope and opportunity to those who are not wealthy, ensuring they receive the tools necessary to improve their situation and achieve the American Dream, and there is much work to do in the years ahead and that is why I am running for US Congress.

Hope and opportunity for all includes health care for all.

Members of Congress enjoy a gold-plated insurance plan. Today's dice-roll doesn't turn out nearly so well for the estimated 50,000,000 Americans without healthcare and many more who are underinsured or trapped in their current jobs because of pre-existing conditions or otherwise worry about losing their healthcare insurance.

Whether one is a member of the political elite or the economic elite, the reality is that most decision makers are personally immune to the fear felt by most Amercans about losing their healthcare insurance. However, I strongly believe that with very few exceptions, members of both political parties serving in elected office are doing it for the right reasons and seek laws and policies consistent with their own values of how to make the world a better place. Just because every member of Congress has a great healthcare plan doesn't mean that Congress somehow lacks moral authority to establish universal healthcare; indeed, they risk hypocrisy if they do not act.

One of my good friends has ongoing mental health disabilities that have prevented him from working a steady job, and as he lost his insurance he had to transition from private care to whatever public care he could find. At the public charter schools I started and ran, the majority of our students lack health care insurance.

As I talk about healthcare on the campaign trail, dozens of Coloradans share tales of the heartbreak and challenges they have faced, are facing, or fear facing with regard to healthcare. The stories are real. The crisis is real. We should provide a foundation of hope and opportunity for every American. That means a good healthcare system including preventative care and catastrophic care for all Americans.

The Bogeyman of Rationing

Carroll in the Rocky Mountain News:

Rationing? That's for people without a dot.com fortune. The superrich like Polis will simply bypass the insurance system, paying whatever it takes - here or anywhere in the world - for the best treatment money can buy.

I think Carroll's point is that even if our system has rationing, "superrich" people with a "fortune" can pay "whatever it takes" for the best treatment "money can buy." While I'm impressed with Carroll's verbal acrobatics in incorporating four distinct references to my economic status into two sentences, he frankly sounds like a Communist. Conservatives frequently grasp at straws to disparage universal healthcare, and Carroll attempts to somehow turn a populist attack on the wealthy into an argument against a Medicare-for-all approach.

Yes, the wealthy can buy the healthcare they need; heck, they can even buy the healthcare they don't need. Our debate is about how to cover those who are not wealthy and who lack healthcare isurance. The wealthy are not the ones for whom we need to reform healthcare. My opponents Will Shafroth, Joan Fitz-Gerald, and I, all of us millionaires, will personally do just fine without systemic reform, but we truly do care and that's why we're doing what we're doing and seeking office.

According to Miriam-Webster dictionary, "ration" has a surprisingly simple definition:


Main Entry:
ra•tion
Pronunciation:
ˈra-sh?n, ?r?-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
French, from Latin ration-, ratio computation, reason
Date:
circa 1711
1: a food allowance for one day plural : FOOD, PROVISIONS
2: a share especially as determined by supply

Our discussion here relates to the second definition. The bogeyman of rationing should be considered objectively rather than as a stock argument against any meaningful healthcare reform. Today in the United States, the supply of healthcare is shared according to who can and can't afford it. Not only is there a distinction between the insured and the uninsured, but each specific healthcare insurance program has different allowances and covered treatments.

So, our challenge is really to determine as a society how the total supply of healthcare is distributed to our citizens in a way that maximizes efficiency and health outcomes. Those of us who support systemic reform argue that we can increase the supply of healthcare in two major ways by : 1) Reducing administrative overhead and 2) Encouraging less-expensive and more effective preventative treatment

As I pointed out in my printed response in the Rocky Mountain News:


First, let us not delude ourselves into thinking that we have anything close to a "free market" in health care. A free market would allow the uninsured to die on the hospital doorstep rather than provide them treatment they cannot pay for. Having made a moral decision not to allow people in our great country to die in this fashion, let us discuss how to more efficiently provide for sensible universal health care.
America does not suffer from lack of total spending in health care.

Yes, there is a limited supply of healthcare, but our nation doesn't suffer from a lack of spending. We spend roughly twice the percentage of our GNP on healthcare costs and yet are in the middle of the pack on health outcomes.

Rationing exists today. We can't waltz into a CAT scan center and demand a full body scan because we broke a toe. Generally, Americans with good insurance programs have a recommended course of treatment that is covered. Many experimental or extremely expensive treatments of marginal health value are not usually covered. Services are provided to the uninsured in a haphazard, erratic, costly, and rationed manner.


Do you suppose Polis will ever wait in line for elective surgery or forgo a chemo visit that the government refuses to cover?

Me neither. But he doesn't mind if you do.

Actually I do mind that the uninsured and underinsured face healthcare rationing, hence my proposal. If I didn't care, why not just continue to ration healthcare as we do today so that only the well-insured and wealthy have full access?

It seems like we have been discussing the issue of the uninsured and underinsured in every election cycle for the past fifteen years. Does anyone ever wonder why we are still talking about the problem and don't have some sort of solution?

In this campaign and in all campaigns across the country, I hope that journalists as well as the public rise above issues like race, gender, economic status, and sexual orientation. Appeals to the worst in us from both the left and the right should be strongly rebuffed at every step of the process.

We must open the door to an honest debate about the issue of healthcare so that the next Congress and White House can ensure that 2009 marks the end of our broken health care system and the beginning of universal health care for all Americans. Let's end the name-calling and discuss healthcare and how to improve it.

Jared Polis
Candidate for US Congress, Colorado-02
www.polisforcongress.com

Tags: , , , , , (All Tags)
Print Friendly View Send As Email
oh that liberal media! (4.00 / 1)
So I take it Vince doesn't care about the premiums he and his employeer make that go up every year while covering less and less every year.

??? (1.20 / 5)
My opponents Will Shafroth, Joan Fitz-Gerald, and I, all of us millionaires, will personally do just fine without systemic reform, but we truly do care and that's why we're doing what we're doing and seeking office.

Jared. I think it is sleazy for you to try and paint your two opponents in the same tier as you when it comes to personal finances. You know that isn't the case, and just because you were able to add up ALL of their reported assets, including their house, retirement fund, etc.--and it added up to ONE million--it isn't the same thing as your deep pockets. To say they are in the same position as you when it comes to future health care is flat untrue. You can afford whatever coverage you want. They can not.

Not only do we not need even MORE ultra rich people in Congress, we especially don't need one that considers hard working upper middle class folks to be in the same tier as themselves. I know you will be able to buy this election, but if you truly believe in any of the ethics you spout...you should stop and think for 5 seconds if simply outspending your opponents to win is what democracy is about. Then again, maybe you don't care. Anything to win...right? Just like in the business world.  


Important medical advice for JoeyK (4.00 / 5)

You really missed the point on that one. I was complimenting my opponents for caring about the healthcare of others, just as I do.

I'm worried about you. Negativity has been shown to lead to high blood pressure and increase the likelyhood of heart attack and stroke.

But there is still time. Here's what you need to do:

1)Take a deep breath

2)Slowly exhale

3)Say something nice about me. No underhanded slap, just something nice. You can do it.

It'll be good for your health and good for your karma.

xoxo,

Jared
www.polisforcongress.com

Jared Polis

www.polisforcongress.com


[ Parent ]
weird how people (4.00 / 2)
don't understand the money thing. The Gospel of Greed is what applies to the right's thinking, but I don't understand the left. FDR was wealthy, he had no problem advocating for the poor and sick. Same with JFK.


[ Parent ]
Protecting the industry (4.00 / 2)
Carroll's column displays a commonly occurring theme in conservative-speak.  As you point out, the "free-market" is thrown out quite a bit as the saving grace of all society's ills.  Except there is no freedom in our health care market.  It's gamed to prevent the deliverance of care.

A single-payer universal system would actually provide care to those who need it most: the 50M without effective coverage.

Carroll is more interested in maintaining the status-quo: the continual profiteering off denying care to people.  That's disgusting.

A Responsible Plan for Iraq: endorsed by Jared Polis


Menu

Make a New Account

Username:

Password:



Forget your username or password?


Blog Roll
What we read
- Andrew Hyde
- Code Neon Blue
- Colorado Dems Blog
- Colorado Independent
- Colorado Pols
- Congresspedia
- Coyote Gulch
- CritterThink
- DemNotes
- Democracy For Colorado
- Dem Conv. Watch
- Denver Ozone
- Ed Stein Ink
- Employee Free Choice - CO
- Great Education Colorado
- Green Chile Democrats
- Junction Daily Blog
- Lefty Blogs
- Liberal and Loving It
- Liberal Latina
- Mario Solis-Marich
- New Era Colorado
- Outta the Cornfield
- Politics West
- Progress Now Colorardo Blog
- RafaelNoboa.net
- Raw Story
- Rocky Mountain Activist
- Scholars and Rogues
- The Seminal
- Think Outside the Cage
- Senate Guru
- Ultimate Politics
- Unbossed
- Wash Park Prophet
- WeatherDem - the blog
- Wide Streets (northern colorado)

What We Listen To
- AM 760 - Boulder's Progressive Talk
- KCFR 1340 AM
- KUNC 91.5 FM
- KGNU 1390AM Denver, 88.5FM Boulder
- KRFC 88.9FM Northern CO

Politician Blogs
- Morgan Carroll
- Pam Bennett for Aurora

Get Involved
- Democrats Work
- Progress Now
- Progress Now Action

Powered By
- SoapBlox



Colorado Reference
Maps (via COMaps.org)
Current:
- US Congress
- State Senate
- State House

2010 Elections
- Michael Bennet CO-Sen
- Andrew Romanoff CO-Sen
- John Flerlage CO-06
- Amber Tafoya HD4
- Jennifer Coken HD4
- Steve Harvey HD28

Past Elections

2008 Elections
- Mark Udall CO-Senate
- Diana DeGette CO-01
- Jared Polis CO-02
- Betsy Markey CO-04
- Hal Bidlack CO-05
- Hank Eng CO-06
- Ed Perlmutter CO-07

- Joe Whitcomb SD23
- Jan Hejtmanek HD20
- Anna Lord HD21

- Coloradans for Middle Class Relief
- Opposes Amendment 47

- Protect Colorado's Future
- Opposes Amendments 47, 49, 54

- Protect Families Protect Choices
- Opposes Amendment 48

2006 Election
US Congress:
- CD 1: Diana DeGette
- CD 2: Mark Udall
- CD 3: John Salazar
- CD 4: Angie Paccione
- CD 5: Jay Fawcett
- CD 6: Bill Winter
- CD 7: Ed Perlmutter

Governor:
    - Bill Ritter
Treasurer:
    - Cary Kennedy
CU Regent-at-large
    - Steve Ludwig
Legislature:
    - Colorado State Sentate
    - Colorado State House

State Board of Education:
- CD 2: Evie Hudak
- CD 4: Bob Schaffer
- CD 7: Karen Middleton


Drinking Liberally Denver
2nd and 4th Wednesdays
7:30 PM @ Skylark Lounge
140 S. Broadway
Denver, CO
 
Denver South Metro
2nd & 4th Thursdays
of Each Month
start-time varies
Lansdowne Arms
9352 Dorchester St
Highlands Ranch, CO
 
Centennial
Every Monday
7pm
Bistro Al Vino
15352 East Ida Suite E
Centennial, CO
 
Boulder
1st & 3rd Thursdays
of Each Month
7:00 PM
Murphy's Grill
2731 Iris Ave.
Boulder, CO
 
Boulder - Downtown
2nd Tuesdays
of Each Month
7:00 PM @ Pearl St Pub
1108 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO
 
Colorado Springs
2nd Tuesdays of Each Month
7:30 PM
The Margarita at Pine Creek
7350 Pine Creek Rd.
Colorado Springs, CO
 
Castle Rock
Fourth Wednesdays
5:15pm
Pegasus Restaurant and Bar
313 Jerry Street
Castle Rock, CO
 
Longmont
1st & 3rd Wednesdays
of Each Month
7 PM @ Redzone
540 S Main St
Longmont, CO
 
Ft. Collins
2nd & 4th Thursdays
of Each Month
5PM - 7PM
The Crown Pub
144 South College Avenue
Ft. Collins, CO
 
Berthoud
1st & 3th Thursdays
of Each Month
5:30 pm
Wayside Pub
505 Mountain Avenue
Berthoud, CO
 
Cañon City
1st & 3rd Wednesdays
of Each Month
5:30 PM @ McClellan's
413 Main St.
Cañon City, CO
 
Greeley
2nd Tuesdays of Each Month
6:30pm
Kress Cinema & Lounge
815 8th Ave.
Greeley, CO
 
Frisco
2nd Wednesdays
of Each Month
7pm @ Po' Boys
620 Main Street
Frisco, CO
 
Carbondale
3rd Saturdays
of Each Month
7pm @ Pour House
352 Main Street
Carbondale, CO
 
Avon
4th Wednesdays
of Each Month
5:30pm @ Loaded Joe's
82 E Beaver Creek Blvd
Suite 104
Avon, CO
 
Grand Junction
1st Wednesdays of Each Month
5pm @ Kannah Creek Brewing Company
1960 N 12th St
Grand Junction, CO
 
Durango
3rd Thursdays of Each Month
6pm @ Joel's
119 W 8th St
Durango, CO

Active Users
Currently 3 user(s) logged on.

RSS Info

RSS Feed





Add to My Yahoo!



Add to Newsgator

Add to Feed Lounge

Add to Pluck

Add to Feedster

Add to Bloglines

Add to My MSN

Add to My AOL

Add to Rojo

Site Stats



Listed on BlogShares

view site stats

Search




Advanced Search


SquareState.net is wholly owned by SoapBlox Network, Inc.
Powered by: SoapBlox