so who isn't voting obama? (4.50 / 4)

so i can beat them up!

ha ha.


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by: pacified @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 17:46:20 PM CST

Let the games begin (0.00 / 0)

I just got a call from my Mom because the Hillary campaign just called her.  They told my Mom that her caucus location is at Arvada West High School.  My mom called me last week to ask how to find her caucus, I found her caucus location was Arvada High School.  My parents live very close to Arvada High School and this is where I graduated high school.  Why would the Hillary Campaign tell my Mom to go all the way across town?

Maybe an honest mistake, I don't know, so I think there are two plausible scenarios.

- The Hillary campaign is so ineptly ran that they told a potential supporter to goto the wrong location.
- Or they are purposely trying to suppress voter turnout.

Either way I wonder if the Hillary campaign is ready for prime time, my Mom was on the fence but this just might have made her choice easier.

On a side note I am curious what happens if a person shows up at the wrong location?

I live in the state with the greatest snow on earth.

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by: marshall collins @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 12:53:41 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Same in my part of Denver (0.00 / 0)

The Hillary camp was giving out an incorrect location.

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by: Aaron Silverstein @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 13:19:03 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Correct Info from both Campaigns (0.00 / 0)

Both the Obama and Hillary callers directed me to the correct location.

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by: ck @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 13:21:55 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Did they ask you who you were supporting first? n/t (0.00 / 0)

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by: 300spartansgym @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 14:54:23 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Interesting (0.00 / 0)

I'm not a huge fan of Hillary, but I'm assuming this is most likely due to miscommunication.  We're all human and make honest mistakes, right?

It is also an interesting glimpse into the machinations of her campaign.  Individually, these cases may not make much of a difference.  Collectively, however...

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by: WeatherDem @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 15:38:23 PM CST

[ Parent ]

who do you think will win Colorado (0.00 / 0)

and by how much?

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by: pacified @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 17:47:02 PM CST

Obama wins (4.00 / 1)

He is generally up by 2 points or so in Colorado in most polls, but I think his margin surpasses that.

1) The Obama ground game appears larger, better organized, and passionate.

2) All rules are off about what a 'likely voter' is this go around, and I believe that the new caucus goers skew Obama.

3) This all happens the old fashioned way, and no e-poll book or vote counters are likely to derail a large voting block.

4) Voting in the open means no "Bradley Effect"

5) The caucus system gives anyone with the edge a larger edge. The peer pressure of the room, the weight of the arguments, the fear of Pacified's beatings, it adds up.

6) Momentum

I call it Obama by 3.

Bonus: Somehow, coupled with the Giant's win, CNN says this is great win for Guiliani.

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by: Aaron Silverstein @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 20:10:40 PM CST

[ Parent ]

fyi, i got my 6,7,8th mailer from Obama today (0.00 / 0)

total from clinton?  zero.

Am I that micro-targeted?  They're like "here's a young Dem in Capitol Hill/Wash Park".

The mailers have been good.  And they have drawn the distinctions where they can be drawn.  I think Obama's made smart arguments, and advocated for himself over Clinton in the correct ways.  I guess I'm too young to get the whole connection to the Harry and Louise ads.

perhaps you can find these online but here is the

front

and

back

of today's mailer from Obama.  They'd really make a Kossack swoon.  One of Markos' biggest beefs with the Clintons is how the party as a whole suffered under Bill's time.  

That's exactly what Barack says.

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by: pacified @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 21:27:49 PM CST

[ Parent ]

oh, and my title (0.00 / 0)

is to say I've gotten a lot of Obama mailers, not that I got 3 today.  I only got 1 today.

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by: pacified @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 21:30:08 PM CST

[ Parent ]

I've also received (4.00 / 1)

numerous Obama mailers, all very nice.

Nothing from Clinton here either.

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by: WeatherDem @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 23:45:36 PM CST

[ Parent ]

do they not like me? (4.00 / 1)

maybe they know I was a die hard Kucinich supporter?  but it seems odd that as a precinct committee person on record in capitol hill I've never received any communication from any of the major candidate campaigns.

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by: tovah_dancer @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 00:39:08 AM CST

[ Parent ]

You were on TV! (0.00 / 0)

Live on ABC last night...I saw ya!

"We are not going to settle for what is, we are going to imagine what might be."- Barack Obama

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by: w0nderm0nkey @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 09:39:41 AM CST

[ Parent ]

pretty doesn't mean accurate tho (0.00 / 0)

Clinton Advisors Whack Obama over Mailer

The Obama health care plan has some serious holes in it. As does Clinton's.

However, I am old enough to remember the smears generated from the "Harry and Louise" ad and the vicious personal attacks on Hillary all of which happened during the ascendence of Gingrich's 1993 "revolution."

That Obama evokes that and other Republican framing on the stump leaves me very cold.  

em dash outs herself! Take that NRO!

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by: em dash @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 10:25:09 AM CST

[ Parent ]

meh (0.00 / 0)

the GOP is going to do it, and the point Obama makes is a real difference between their plans.  For how Hillary says she's ready for the "Right wing machine", if she can't take a little shot from Obama, I find it hard for her to claim she's so tough.

We can argue back and forth about the "mandate" part, but many people aren't going to like it.


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by: pacified @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 13:03:30 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Obama wins by 12 (0.00 / 0)

Obama has just been far more organized here in CO than Hillary. With the momentum going Obama's way recently, I don't see Clinton's supporters making a big effort to get to caucus. The ones who do will be hearing alot about downticket races. Also, there are really good governance reasons to vote for Obama.

I've yet to see a good reason for voting for Hillary ('course thats probably why I'm voting for Obama).

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by: davewolfusa @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 14:14:21 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Resolution for sound Immigration Policy - federal and state (4.00 / 2)

Uncanny...I was just coming by to post a resolution to be considered and the thread is ready. I have two resolutions to post. I will post them in two comments. The Colorado Immigrants Rights Coalition is circulating this resolution asking that we rejects division, blasts special session anti-immigration law and urges congressional action on a federal level. Please print this out and take it with you to caucus. Or find it at their blog to print. 

 Whereas Colorado is a state that values basic democratic principles and civil liberties for all its residents and recognizes the contributions of all communities to this nation, and

Whereas the current tone of the debate with respect to immigration has been overwhelmed by demagoguery, xenophobia and mean-spiritedness that diminishes every resident in this state, and

Whereas the attacks against immigrants threaten to undermine real reforms for a range of programs important to residents of this state, including health care, worker protections and civil liberties, and

Whereas Colorado is a State that values all its residents and workers, and Whereas Colorado recognizes the chilling effect of anti-immigrant policies on all residents’ wages, standards of living, workplace and community safety, and

 

Whereas Colorado recognizes anti-immigrant policies have negatively impacted our economy by reducing our labor pool, tax and consumer bases Whereas Colorado’s special session anti-immigrant legislation cost the State of Colorado more than $2 million to enforce and have yet to result in cost savings to the State of Colorado

 

Therefore be it resolved that the Democratic Party adopt the following... "The Colorado Democratic Party stands for America's finest ideals and core community values, rejects the politics of division and isolation efforts by any candidate for office which sow isolation, fear and xenophobia against any person or community, including our newest members, recognizes the ineffectiveness of State level immigration policy, and calls on Congress to enact a just and human immigration reform bill" 

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by: greenchiledem @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 17:56:10 PM CST

unprecedented turnout (4.00 / 1)

I don't know about the other counties, but the Denver Dems were planning for something like more than 3x the usual caucus turnout.  In '06, HD4 had two caucus sites still with plenty of room.  Now we have 5 sites.   Based on some kind of magic formula and what the chicken bones are saying the one site by my house for 7 precincts could have 1200 people showing up...or more.

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by: johne @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 17:57:01 PM CST

mmm hmmm (4.00 / 1)

It seems with every page turned in my precinct call list, the more I keep upping the estimation of the number of people who are going to show up. The formula up here in Boulder County was 4x a couple of weeks ago, I really feel we're going to beat that.

Thank goodness though it's snowing tonight and not tomorrow.

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by: bco gal @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 18:38:25 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Boulder Start Time? (0.00 / 0)

You should probably add (time variable) to that 7 pm start.

Specifically, why 6:50 p.m. in Boulder County?  I'm obviously going to get there earlier than that, but it conflicts with the Polis mailer and I swore it used to say 7 o'clock.

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by: peterco @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 19:47:29 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Phew! (0.00 / 0)

Okay, that was bad precinct math.  It's going to be more like 50-80 people per precinct in Denver.

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by: johne @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 21:19:09 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Just back from Adams Cty HD35 - Avg turnout 34 per Precinct (0.00 / 0)

in Adams, We averaged about 34 to 35 per precinct, over 300 filled the room-almost literally jam-packed, I'm new to Adams, Caucused last time in Jeffco HD29 where turnout per precinct was about 8 or 9 in 06.

Many young folks turned out there bout 1/4th under 30, SO nice to see so many there (Obama supporters mostly too) - not all Grayhairs -

Lee

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by: joecolorado @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:17:32 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Colorado Progressive Democrats resolution for a lot of stuff... (4.00 / 2)

The CPDems have asked us to consider this resolution(s) at our caucuses. Link to web page where you can download a text file or pdf. Please print this out and ask your caucus to support these resolutions. CPD resolution web page at PDA.

Progressive Democrats of Colorado
1) We call for the withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Iraq; the closing of all U.S. bases in Iraq; and the recognition of the United States' obligation to pay reparations to the Iraqi people. We oppose continued funding for the occupation of Iraq.
2) We support a foreign policy based on diplomatic engagement and oppose the use of preemptive strikes, violence and threats. We oppose military action against Iran.
3) We support a just process and equitable solution to the Israel-Palestinian conflict, including support for a two state solution.
4) We support a not-for-profit universal, single-payer health care system. We support the U.S. National Health Insurance Act (HR 676).
5) We support fair trade agreements that guarantee worker protections, a living wage, environmental protections, and human rights.
6) We believe global warming is a major security threat and support shifting our economy to a sustainable one based on energy efficiency and clean renewable energy production.
7) We support sustainable agriculture including organic farming. We support safe food practices, including labeling of genetically engineered food and place of origin.
8) We support protection for farmers whose crops have been contaminated by genetically modified organisms.
9) We support applying the principles of the Geneva Convention and habeas corpus to all prisoners and detainees, and oppose the use of torture under any circumstance.
10) We support the impeachment of Vice President Cheney.
11) We support free, fair, and transparent elections using voter verified paper ballots.
12) We support public financing of election campaigns. We support instant runoff voting.
13) We resolve that the format and relevant resolutions in the 2006 Colorado Democratic Party Platform be the basis for the 2008 Colorado Democratic Party Platform.
14) We support policies based on the values of fairness, equality, democracy, and sustainability.

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by: greenchiledem @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 18:09:22 PM CST

Nice (4.00 / 1)

You had me at 'impeach.'

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by: Aaron Silverstein @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 20:13:30 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Colorado Stonewall Democrats Platform Recommendations (0.00 / 0)

Recommended Changes/Additions to Party Platform for 2008 as of December 8, 2007

A Work in Progress by the Colorado Stonewall Democrats

HUMAN and CIVIL RIGHTS

CHANGED:  We support domestic partnerships for all couples with all the benefits, protections and responsibilities of married spouses; the defeat of the Federal marriage Amendment and the Defense of Marriage Act;

KEEP:  Legislation that extends basic protections such as health insurance, employment benefits, hospital visitation rights, property rights and pension coverage, to the GLBT community;

CHANGED:  Expansion of the current definition of civil rights and hate crime laws to include sexual orientation, gender identity or expression and disability; also known as the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act.

KEEP:  The separation of church and state to ensure that issues such as civil unions, individual and family medical decisions, and women's reproductive rights would be resolved in favor of personal privacy and civil liberties that are guaranteed by our Constitution.

HEALTH

KEEP:  Educating the public about scientifically sound policies regarding STDS/HIV/AIDS and comprehensive programs for their research, prevention and treatment.

JOBS & ECONOMY

KEEP:  Legislation that ensures all workers shall receive equal pay for equal work regardless of gender, race, religious affiliation, disability, ethnicity, sexual orientation gender identity or expression or age;

KEEP:  The Employment Non-discrimination Act and Affirmative Action programs;

NEW:  Support only a Federal ENDA inclusive of sexual orientation, gender identity or expression.

MILITARY AND VETERANS

CHANGED:  Repeal of the Don't Ask Don't tell policy and the removal of  the exclusion of gays and lesbians from the military.

IMMIGRATION

NEW:  Support immigration and visa regulations wherein HIV/AIDS status is not considered as a valid criteria for the issuance of visas or the granting of a viable immigrant status including where political asylum is involved.

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by: davewolfusa @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 20:38:16 PM CST

How about keeping it simple? (4.00 / 1)

We always have these long platforms that include everything including the kitchen sink - and they are then ignored.

How about a single simple resolution - "do what's right, not do what's expedient?"

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by: DavidThi808 @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 21:22:44 PM CST

Platforms (4.00 / 1)

Did you just read the Boulder County "draft" version?  I'm sorry if you did.  

If I wrote a platform, it would be along the lines of this length and description (without a bit saner sounding introduction)
http://projects.vassar.edu/189...

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by: peterco @ Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 22:57:38 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Platform Resolution -- SAME DAY Voter Registration (4.00 / 2)

If Colorado had Election Day Voter Registration, all of the problems Denver experienced in the last election would have disappeared, and Secretary of State Ken Gordon would be working for the people, instead of fighting a rear guard action against the reactionary GOoPers.

States that have same day voter registration  increase voter turnout by approximately 5% -- many of these are first time voters, low information citizens who thought their voice didn't matter.

In other words, this is a demographic tailor made for Obama -- which is why the GOP hates the idea.

Same day registration would increase turnout at the caucuses for Obama -- and once the newbies register as Democrats, Team Obama will keep them on board.

All voters who register (or re-register) on election day would receive a provisional ballot, to make sure they are legitimate -- but that isn't really a problem, since voter fraud only exists as a GOP fantasy in their real and illegal voter suppression schemes. There is no evidence of increased voter fraud in election day voter registration states.

With Democrats in charge in the Statehouse, and the failures of the last election still fresh in Ken Gordon's mind, why not pass the law now?

The GOoPer's will squeal like stuck pigs -- but that's all they're good for, isn't it?

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by: ck @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 09:43:16 AM CST

Colorado History (4.00 / 4)

Working with League of Women Voters and Common Cause, I spearheaded an effort here in Colorado to pass same day voter registration and we got it on the ballot as Amendment 30 in 2002. Unfortunately, it only got just over 40% of the vote.

In retrospect:
1) We should have put it on the ballot in a higher-turnout presidential election year
2) It would have done better in the aftermath of what happened to Denver voters in 2006 and other horror stories of people being denied the right to vote.

I would support national legislation that would REQUIRE states to allow qualified electors to cast their ballots after demonstrating their eligibility regardless of whether they are pre-registered. Every American has the right to vote.

Jared Polis
www.polisforcongress.com

Jared Polis

www.polisforcongress.com

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by: jpolis @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 10:59:33 AM CST

[ Parent ]

I will support an Impeachment Resolution & Dem. Nominee(hope it is Obama) (4.00 / 1)

I personally plan to support the nominee of our Democratic Party for president regardless of who is it,
but I prefer Obama.  

I am the organizer for the
IMPEACH COLORADO COALITION

http://ImpeachCO.com  

and as you might expect
I will support any resolution with the word IMPEACH in it.

I plan to support the Colorado Progressive Democrats slate of resolutions which include Impeachment with the words
"We support the impeachment of Vice President Cheney".

You can access both an html and pdf version  copy at:  
http://ImpeachCO.com/resolutio...  
or at
http://ImpeachCO.com/resolutio...  

Print it out and take it to your precinct caucus and promote it.  The Progressive Democrats are asking that the 2006 Colorado Democratic Party Platform be used as the basis for the 2008 platform.  The 2006 platform had a great impeachment plank in it so all the downloadable PD resolutions do is reaffirm the 2006 platform with some minor modifications.

Go to caucus, vote and celebrate.  This is gonna be a great Democratic year!!!

John H Kennedy, Denver.  I am a 44 year Democratic voter, Obama supported and organizer of the Impeach Colorado Coalition and ANGRYVOTERS.ORG which is dedicated to the prosecution of the Bush-Cheney criminals for their Torture and WMD Lies.

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by: John Kennedy @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 11:12:05 AM CST

Results... (0.00 / 0)

If you're looking for results tonight, you can visit these two pages...

Colorado Reults: http://www.arapahoedems.org/in...

National Results:
http://www.arapahoedems.org/in...

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by: lanman2k @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 14:30:45 PM CST

The sites aren't coming up for me n/t (0.00 / 0)

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by: WeatherDem @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 16:23:30 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Lamar High School cafeteria, 5:38pm (0.00 / 0)

We have our eleven tables for eleven precincts set up.  The county chair and her mom are sorting out the packets while I sit here typing, trying to look busy.  Pretty soon I will help set out the cookies, though. (Is there a party rule that you MUST have snacks for any gathering of Dems over some key number?)

We just had our first two non-regulars come in! Yay, we're starting!

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by: Susan the Neon Nurse @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 18:43:39 PM CST

Ooh, they are flocking in now! (6:51) (0.00 / 0)

There are at least 100 people here! We've used the physical map and Boulder County's widget to get people to their precinct tables. We have a dozen or so future Dems too!

I think this is a great turnout!

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by: Susan the Neon Nurse @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 19:54:24 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Oh dear (4.00 / 1)

People keep expecting me to know stuff.

Take heart! http://codeneonblue.net

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by: Susan the Neon Nurse @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 20:01:22 PM CST

[ Parent ]

All in and all done! (0.00 / 0)

Prowers was one of the first five counties to get their totals in!

Uncommitted: 3
Clinton: 59
Obama:  40

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by: Susan the Neon Nurse @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:06:30 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Holy Cow! (0.00 / 0)

Live... From Newton Middle School (HD37's Caucus)...
We have a MASSIVE turnout. The parking lots are already full. There are lines at check-in. And everyone is in a good mood... for now.

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by: lanman2k @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 19:26:18 PM CST

Amazed (0.00 / 0)

I can't even estimate how many people we have here. We originally booked the cafeteria, but we have taken over the gyms, theaters, hallways...

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by: lanman2k @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 20:59:16 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Cool (0.00 / 0)

So far we have only counted 26 out of 53 precincts. We have 1147 attendees (in 2004 we had a TOTAL of about 200)

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by: lanman2k @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:28:21 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Adams County - some elementary school (0.00 / 0)

Freaking unbelievable turnout. Had to keep expanding into new rooms. In my precinct, the final total was Obama 57, Hillary 20. Sounded like the other 9 precincts had similar turnout and slightly closer numbers.

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by: 300spartansgym @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:33:30 PM CST

Boulder (0.00 / 0)

Maybe we should have a separate thread for this part.

Boulder precinct, mainly apartment buildings.  The turnout was large enough that we violated the carrying capacity of the gym with five precincts.

Our precinct had 84 turn up, and was the fourth largest of the bunch.

Obama-Clinton 4-1
Polis-JFG-Undecided 3-1-1

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by: peterco @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:36:34 PM CST

[ Parent ]

How did you get to vote in CO-02??? (0.00 / 0)

They told us we could only vote for the top two races on ticket (president and senate) and all other races would be decided at the state convention. WTF?

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by: 300spartansgym @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:38:38 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Wha - no! (0.00 / 0)

County assembly versus convention.

The Pres one was convention delegates.

Then we did Udall (obvious) and polled on Polis/JFG/Undecided for the five delegates for the county assembly.  The super-caucus organizer was in our precinct, and I assumed they knew what they were doing.  Ah, it says so on the Boulder Dems site as well.  

Also, who else heard quite possible the worst 2-minute speeches ever?

There were speeches from representatives of:
Obama, JFG, Udall
Heath and Carlisle (SD18)
Hullinghorst (HD10)

It was strange there was no Polis, actually.

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by: peterco @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:57:38 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Our Obama guy didn't even mention his candidate (0.00 / 0)

He just ripped on Hillary for two minutes.

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by: 300spartansgym @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:38:50 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Beat me to it. :) (0.00 / 0)

Glad I got there plenty early.

Were the middle and high schools not available to caucuses or did other precincts meet there?

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by: WeatherDem @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:46:52 PM CST

[ Parent ]

BTW (0.00 / 0)

The last caucus for this precinct reportedly had seven people show up.  12X that this time!

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by: WeatherDem @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:54:40 PM CST

[ Parent ]

5 precincts (0.00 / 0)

In the Creekside Elementary gym.  Were you on the stage?

There isn't any Middle/High School closer to me than that one.  And I know the ones that did had precincts already caucusing there.

If the stinking GOP hadn't taken the cafeteria, things would have been much easier.

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by: peterco @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:02:56 PM CST

[ Parent ]

I was indeed (0.00 / 0)

I had no idea you were there.  84 people on that tiny stage.  I wish I had a camera!

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by: WeatherDem @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:10:59 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Simple math (0.00 / 0)

Their math abilities scared me.  Plus I probably beat you because I left during the platform (heat).

Also for wonky people, Dem turnout is anywhere between 8 to 25 percent of the registered Democratic voters (for counties that are completed).  Douglas County is the only large county complete, with 16.5% turnout.

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by: peterco @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:22:54 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Denver precinct 616 (0.00 / 0)

Cherry Creek North

Obama  57

Clinton  31 

Illegal is not a noun

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by: Luis @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 21:42:17 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Has anyone gotten the state party stats to work? (0.00 / 0)

According to their web site, we should have been able to get results at http://www.coloradocaucus.com/

I just keep getting a default error message. Anyone else getting anything else?

http://onlinecampaignoffice.blogspot.com/

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by: louella @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:02:17 PM CST

Use this (0.00 / 0)

http://coloradocaucus.com/Defa...

It's lagging CNN however.

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by: peterco @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:08:18 PM CST

[ Parent ]

thx! cnn it is... (though at least your link doesn't give an error) n/t (0.00 / 0)

http://onlinecampaignoffice.blogspot.com/

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by: louella @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:34:17 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Actually (0.00 / 0)

They didn't configure the default page to the index page.

Also, now it is current - the county link is more accurate (most of the time).

It's at 8% turnout, so far, with 62% reporting.  The Dems will beat the GOP caucus turnout.

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by: peterco @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:50:09 PM CST

[ Parent ]

Prelim numbers from the Post (0.00 / 0)

President - Dem Caucus
Colorado - 658 of 3213 Precincts Reporting - 20%
Name Votes Vote %
Obama , Barack 16,266 65%
Clinton , Hillary 8,446 34%
Uncommitted 288 1%

President - GOP Caucus
Colorado - 148 of 3213 Precincts Reporting - 5%
Name Votes Vote %
Romney , Mitt 1,233 46%
McCain , John 733 27%
Huckabee , Mike 529 20%

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by: Zappatero @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:02:40 PM CST

Otero County (0.00 / 0)

Obama takes Otero County.

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by: GMFORD @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:10:38 PM CST

Hey! (0.00 / 0)

I didn't know you were from Otero County!

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by: Susan the Neon Nurse @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 00:24:10 AM CST

[ Parent ]

Otero County (0.00 / 0)

Yup, Kansas west.  ;)

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by: GMFORD @ Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 11:33:07 AM CST

[ Parent ]

My precinct (0.00 / 0)

Last time we had 8 people show up. This time 123!!

Long lines, crowded rooms - and yet great attitudes by people. So proud of my fellow Democrats.

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by: bco gal @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 22:50:44 PM CST

Benner? (0.00 / 0)

Did Benner get any delegates?

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by: runza @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 23:06:04 PM CST

Maps (4.00 / 4)

Here is the map of Colorado by county winner (only counties with 80% reporting or more)

Blue is Obama, red is Hillary.

I'll update it again after the news.  Feel free to draw random conclusions about what it actually means.

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by: peterco @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 23:06:36 PM CST

Updated (0.00 / 0)

The Colorado Dem site is at 98%, so this will be it for tonight.  120k Dem turnout, which will easily beat the GOP turnout.  Boulder County had a 23.8% turnout rate.  

Color change:

Gradient is green Hillary to blue Obama.  49 to 14 counties for Obama.  

Bent County (the nearly square non-border county in the Southeast) is 50-50.  Extremes are 86% Obama in San Miguel (Telluride) and 70% Clinton in Kit Carson (east central border).

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by: peterco @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 23:57:00 PM CST

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This is great! (0.00 / 0)

I love seeing how the state votes by region!

Take heart! http://codeneonblue.net

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by: Susan the Neon Nurse @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 00:28:05 AM CST

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Very cool (5.00 / 1)

And thanks for the color change. When I see red, I see... red. (If you'll pardon the pun.)

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by: 300spartansgym @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 09:59:52 AM CST

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NorthWest Denver Went 78% Obama (0.00 / 0)

(reposted over here where it makes more sense)

Smiley Jr High was a mad house. Nearly 1200 people, and long lines to sign in. I'm sure some people with kids and work went home, but the dedication and enthusiasm was enormous.

Many precincts had over 100 people, and 828 was the biggest with about 180 voting.

The Obama supporters had tons of energetic volunteers.

Voting was:
- 78.3% Obama
- 20.0% Clinton
- 01.7% Uncommitted

Udall got 100% of the 828 votes. I don't know about the other precincts.  

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by: MetaData @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 23:23:57 PM CST

Oh, a lot, certainly over half of the attendance was white (4.00 / 1)

Yes, NW Denver has a large black population, which was certainly present. This is an interesting mixed neighborhood with a long, proud history of integration.

I just didn't want people to think the Obama percentage was so high just because of the black vote. High energy from Obama all around.

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by: MetaData @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 23:27:21 PM CST

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Smiley is in Northeast Denver (0.00 / 0)

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by: runza @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 23:45:10 PM CST

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Duh (0.00 / 0)

Tired and confused.

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by: MetaData @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 00:03:26 AM CST

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Greetings from Eagle County. (0.00 / 0)

Sen. Obama wins the high country county of Eagle where a record number of people caucused.
Total voters: 574
Sen. Obama: 414(72%)
Sen. Clinton: 150 (26%)
Uncommitted: 9
Sen. Gravel: 1
There were 188 voters in the Roaring Fork Valley and 386 in the Eagle River Valley.
A total of 28 of 30 precincts were represented. (2 no-shows)
Yes. We had one small precinct with 1 voter who elected Sen. Gravel.
Eagle County is Fired Up, Ready to go!

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by: greenchiledem @ Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 23:55:12 PM CST

CD-2 (0.00 / 0)

Did they take a straw poll for CD-2?

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by: GreenDem @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 00:14:02 AM CST

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There was a CD-02 straw poll but... (0.00 / 0)

The results are not yet tabulated. My anecdotal info says many went uncommitted.

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by: greenchiledem @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 13:14:33 PM CST

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Looks like 22-24... favor Obama (0.00 / 0)

You have to view the district-by-district voting, but Obama seems to have won big in CO-01 and CO-02 (Denver and Boulder), which gives him 4-2 in each.

He came out more or less even in CO-05 (Colorado Springs) for 2-2.

The four 5-delegate districts all look solidly 50.1% or better for Obama, making then 3-2 each.

Adding them all up, we get 22-14.

Now, we aren't gold until the March 8 County Assemblies.

Plus we have the super-delegates, and the Colorado establishment leans Clinton. Finally, I'm not sure how the state-wide proportionate delegates work in Colorado.

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by: MetaData @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 00:24:45 AM CST

how can degette support clinton? (0.00 / 0)

when all of her delegates don't.

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by: pacified @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 00:53:24 AM CST

where are udall and salazar (0.00 / 0)

and the other salazar and ritter?

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by: pacified @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 00:57:21 AM CST

precint 209 (4.00 / 1)

total: 69

straw
obama: 36
clinton: 28
uncommited: 5

final:
obama: 39
clinton: 29
no vote: 1

delegates
obama: 5
clinton: 3

delegate: me.

It was my passionate speech for obama that one the day ;)

Caucuses are the most awesome thing.  I loved it.  I'd do it more often.

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by: pacified @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 01:18:34 AM CST

lol, stupid phonetic thinking (4.00 / 1)

won the day, not one.

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by: pacified @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 01:23:57 AM CST

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Passionat speech? (0.00 / 0)

Or did you threaten to beat them up?
Congratulations.

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by: greenchiledem @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 13:08:02 PM CST

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hehe (0.00 / 0)

no.

I gave the 3 points.

1- I'm 27 and have never not had a bush/clinton on the ticket
2- Dems lost many seats under Clinton, 12 Govs, 7 Senators, and 46 House Reps
3- Hillary was wrong on the war.  She's going to have to spend the whole general election being attacked with the "was for it, not against it line".

I should have added down-ticket appeal.  I firmly believe Udall will have a better chance with Obama on the top of the ticket.

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by: pacified @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 15:01:41 PM CST

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Thank you! (4.00 / 5)

Thank you to everyone who caucused for Obama, Hillary, Gravel, and even the others who aren't actively running any more!

Thank you to everyone who caucused for me!

We're feeling good about tonight. Colorado Democratic voters expressed a desire for change. The voters- many young, all representing what democracy is truly about, are all calling for the same thing: change.

Our volunteers and supporters took on a candidate backed by nearly every special interest in the state involved with this race, and we're more than holding our own. THANK YOU.

This is a victory for the people of the Democratic party.

Onwards to August 12th and November 4th!

Jared Polis
www.polisforcongress.com

Jared Polis

www.polisforcongress.com

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by: jpolis @ Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 01:31:12 AM CST