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Okay Democrats, Let's Talk About Our Failure And What Next

by: Bill Egnor AKA Something The Dog Said

Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 05:39:39 AM MST


Okay, we got beaten. We did, there is no getting around it. What is important is why did we get beaten? Is it a repudiation of liberal policies? No. Is it that the nation is center-right and wants government to be that way too? No, else the voters would not have put the Republicans in the driver's seat. The reason we lost as a party is a political failure on our part. We did not excite our base and the Republicans did excite theirs, it really is that simple.

In the last four election cycles the party with the most excited base won. 2004, 2006, 2008 and this cycle all saw the base of the party who won turn out and that swept along the low-information independents. I am not talking about folks who have left one party or the other but still vote for them, but the real independents. To quote Blazing Saddles, simple farmers, the common clay of the New West, you know, morons.  

Bill Egnor AKA Something The Dog Said :: Okay Democrats, Let's Talk About Our Failure And What Next

This group of folks will flock to the banner of whatever party has the most energy coming from their base. They will be like folks who never pay attention to sports then root for the presumed front runner as soon as the play offs start. They don't really know which party is doing what; they only know what they see on TV and make their choice accordingly. There is no point getting mad at these folks. They are not going to change and the way to win them is to win your base.

We, as Democrats, failed to fire up our base. Our elected Dems spent too much time trying to woo Republicans and failing to put a headlock on our Blue Dogs. We did not talk about the 300 billion in tax cuts that everyone (okay almost everyone) in the U.S. got from the stimulus. We did not talk up the benefits of the stimulus in real terms, but instead went for the "less jobs lost" meme which is too easy for Republicans to dispute.

We took, way, way, way too long to pass HCR, and that time was spent watering it down. We did not aggressively get out and show the LGTB community that we were serious about their issues, and they rightly felt like they were ignored. We chose to try to do energy legislation and bumped comprehensive immigration reform. This gave the Latino community reason to doubt our sincerity. We failed to bring card check forward and our Labor allies had to wonder if we were serious about helping them.

We did all of these things out of a calculation that our base was going to vote for us anyway, after all where did they have to go? Well, they had somewhere to go,  to the polls and they did not do it. Many of the very people we disappointed with our policies and our overly solicitous attitude towards Republicans voted anyway, but they were not excited, they were not noisy and they did not carry the independents with them.

Sure there were structural problems that was going to make this a hard election, but that is no excuse. We are the party that will actually do things for the working folks in this country but because we did not control the frame the working folks don't know that. They think we are the problem, even though it was only a few years ago that the Republicans drove this country in a ditch with the same policies they will try to pursue in the new Congress.

The fact of the matter is we need to stop chasing Independent voters and start focusing on our base. We are a Big Tent party and that can be hard, but it is exactly because we are a Big Tent party that exciting our base is the right thing to do. We need the Dirty Freaking Hippies and the LGTB community and the Latinos and the African Americans and Unionists to be jazzed up to vote for us. The White Working Class Male voter is not our natural constituency anymore. We should not chase him, as he is going to be less and less of a force in politics over the long haul.

This is why we failed, we did not brag on the good things we did. We did not explain why they are good things and we compromised too much with people who were not negotiating in good faith. The Republicans have taken the House. They are willing to shut down the government and perhaps even stop us from raising out debt limit which could cause a default of the United States.

They are not going to be able to fix the problems of the nation with their policies; they can only make things worse. The next two years problems will be laid a the feet of Republican's and their Neo-Hooverite idea of cutting spending across the board.

So we should shun their ideas and work to make our base happy. If we want to retake our majorities and keep the White House it will not be by half measures, we have to show that Democrats are the better choice and dance with the ones who brought us, our base. Being Liberal or Progressive is not a bad thing. It is the way the nation is going to be heading for the next couple of decades. If we want to win we need to embrace that and put the screws to the Republican agenda of afflicting the afflicted and comforting the comfortable.

One of the things we should not do is start to lay blame on the left side of our party for this loss. That they were not on board with the policies of the leadership and felt betrayed is a our failure. We have to win our voters, not just count on them as safe. Yes, it is hard to keep everyone happy in a Big Tent party but ignoring our most active and growing demographic is a failure to understand the future of our party. We have to come together and that means moving our policies as a party to the left. There is no energy or win for us in the center, especially since the Tea Party has pushed the Republicans so far to the Right.

We can move to consolidate our base by moving the Left, by putting out head gear on and playing hard nosed politics. Politics never ends, ever. This is a set back but unlike the Republicans we do have the ability to assess where we went wrong and correct by changing, but it is important that we learn the correct lesson.

It is our choice, we should not learn false lesson that the nation wants us to be less liberal. That is the millions of secret and corporate dollars speaking; it is not the true voice of people. If we, as Democrats, really stand with the people the future electoral cycles are ours to win. If we don't then the power of money and an energized Republican base will keep us from serving the nation as we want to.

The fight starts now. We can redeem ourselves in 2012 but not by thinking we don't have to work or court the base. Disaffected Progressives you have a stake in this too. If you want better than we got this time, then you have to keep working. Establishment Dems, you have been shown you can't hold power by being middle of road, by being too willing to compromise with Republicans who want nothing more than your destruction. Rank and file Dems, you've been here before, we know what it takes to win, now is the time to screw our courage to the sticking point and set our sites on victory in 2012.

The floor is yours.  

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Really good analysis
I agree with almost everything you write, Bill.  I think these two statements might be contradictory, however:

We are the party that will actually do things for the working folks in this country

Totally agree with this - the Democratic Party is more usually the People Party.

We can move to consolidate our base by moving to the Left

I don't think this gets at the real problem.  A sizable portion of the Democratic Party is wooed by anti-people (anti-American) sentiment that I think is pursued by corporations.  Democrats need to consolidate their base by returning to their peo-people roots.  That might be what you're saying in the second statement, but I think more Dems need to be more explicit about framing themselves as pro-people and others as not.

Keep up the fight!


NBC's Mark Murray (Deputy political director) missed the message
Wrong.

Still, Election Day was mostly a rebuke to Democrats and the expansion of government.

It's the economy, stupid.


[ Parent ]
Exactly right
There is ample opportunity for the Democratic Party to reclaim its erstwhile position as the party of the people. Unfortunately, the current national party leadership has proved itself unable or unwilling to do that. Pressure must be applied to them from within and without.

When the party pursued a reform-minded, populist progressive agenda under chairman Howard Dean and, yes, candidate Barack Obama, it excited the base, drew in throngs newly activated supporters, and swept to victory in 2006 and 2008.

When the party under Rahm Emanuel and now-President Obama exposed itself as Corporate Party B and largely turned its back on the will and best interests of the people, betraying and demoralizing the party base, it got trounced in the 2010 election.

Fortunately, the right thing to do is also the winning political strategy. But will they do it?


[ Parent ]
I Agree
Our base was not enthusiastic, and the Senate primary was draining, though I am unsure if things would have turned out differently were AR not to have entered his candidacy.

A lot of us are getting tired of consultants building their resumes on the backs of some of our candidates rather than doing all possible to win an election beginning long before election day.  

Many of us wonder why there was no really strong push back against the brownshirt riots in the Summer of 2009, even when some of us stood in the way of those rioters as witness to their actions.  Why weren't they condemned by our media and by our elected officials?  It sure wasn't "Wings Over the Rockies 2004" was it?

some of us really wonder why business wasn't called out for its CoC or industry ads and other communications.  We all have to drink the water, but some think it's OK to pour benzene into the ground or surface water to help extract oil and gas "because we need the jobs".  The jobs will still be there, even if more care is mandated and enforced.  Many rant against immigrants who come for jobs but few will condemn the contractor who hires them and low bids his job.  Too many oppose organized labor in Colorado, but organized labor is responsible for almost all law protecting employees.

Coloradans and Americans will now go back to their lives, thanking their stars that their games won't be interrupted by a political commercial.  Too bad, but it's true.

Let's begin now to find electable progressive candidates who will fight for us.  The country has lost some but new ones will come forth with our help.  


Good point re: consultants
To oversimplify things, there are two groups: the base and the consultants (establishment?).  The consultants are all too happy to ride on our candidates' backs as well as our backs because it keeps them in high-paying jobs with little accountability to those they affect the most involved.

There were lots of lost opportunities in the past two years.  Hopefully, strong progressive candidates will emerge in the future who paid attention to those lost opportunities and do their homework so they don't fall prey to the same mistakes.


[ Parent ]
We Have to Find Them
Strong, progressive and electable candidates.  They exist, but it's not easy to recruit them.  

[ Parent ]
Agree it's not easy to recruit them
From an objective standpoint, the post-2010 election results provide a strong argument: progressives fared far better than their pro-corporatist Blue Dog and New Dem colleagues.  District-by-district details matter, of course, but I don't think it can be overstated that people know who fight for them.

[ Parent ]
The Democratic Establishment lost the Populist Narrative
Hell, they couldn't even SEE the populist narrative when it kicked them in the butt; viz Scott Brown.

As WeatherDem said, "It's the economy, stupid." People are mad as hell and not going to take it any more.

The right wing groups and the Republican Party completely dominated the Populist Narrative for Middle Class. When it comes to politics they are absolutely reality based.

The bizarre thing is that while the Republicans, Libertarians and TeaBaggers got the anger and new how to create a right-wing, populist narrative, the Very Serious People in Washington and the Democratic Party analysts were totally blind-sided by it. Are they that stupid? Or did they actually want the Republicans to win?

I get that the Right-wing has a narrative building machine that can deliver the message up and down, right and left, in and out. But, the Democrats didn't understand that their strategies of appeasement and timid stimulus wouldn't and couldn't work.


The Democratic Establishment Refused The Populist Narrative
It was out there for the taking.  By choosing appeasement and blindly chasing bipartisanship, they voluntarily ceded the winning message to the type of clowns that largely caused the economic disaster in the first place.

[ Parent ]
As usual, Paul Krugman says it well.
Krugman's blog post in toto:

Blame The Whiny Center

So, we're already getting the expected punditry: Obama needs to end his leftist policies, which consist of ... well, there weren't any, but he should stop them anyway.

What actually happened, of course, was that Obama failed to do enough to boost the economy, plus totally failing to tap into populist outrage at Wall Street. And now we're in the trap I worried about from the beginning: by failing to do enough when he had political capital, he lost that capital, and now we're stuck.

But he did have help in getting it wrong: at every stage there was a faction of Democrats standing in the way of strong action, demanding that Obama do less, avoid spending money, and so on. In so doing, they shot themselves in the face: half of the Blue Dogs lost their seats.

And what are those who are left demanding? Why, that Obama move to the center.



[ Parent ]
What's in store for the next two years- House investigations to tie up Obama
This is what Republicans will do to prevent any progressive action to help save this nation and it's middle class:

"Reps. Darrell Issa (R-CA) and Lamar Smith (R-TX) have been attacking the Obama administration since pretty much the day Barack Obama took office. Until now, as just the ranking members of two powerful House committees and members of the minority party, their criticisms of administration officials and their decisions have been mostly limited to issuing press releases.

Now -- as the expected chairmen of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and the House Judiciary Committee, respectively -- they're the proud new holders of subpoena power, will have a much more robust unit of investigators and will likely be a huge thorn in the side of President Obama and his top cabinet members...."

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi...

Which is all about making President Obama a "one term" president as Republican Senator Mitch McConnell said.

http://www.mediaite.com/online...

Not on how to govern and not on making good public policy that will move America forward but on placing their political party and having power is all that matters for them.


Good Post at DKos on Reid's win.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo... (Can't remember how to link, here).
The best campaign of the cycle

The best campaign this cycle, as many pundits are noting, was run by Senator Harry Reid. He was always confident of victory. He never once backed away from anything he did. He stood his ground and stuck with his president. Most importantly, he turned to his base the old-fashioned way and used political tactics straight out of the old-school Democratic Boss playbook.

What really stands out is how Harry Reid turned out the Latino vote.

Reid's frontal assault on GOP racism isn't textbook DLC "be like a Republican" stuff or even textbook Obama "let's all get along" stuff. It is old school, hardball, walkin-around money, ward boss "whose side are you on?" kill-the-enemy Democratic politics. I love it. God help me, I love it.


Can't stop quoting from that post
Reid went in with his union base, Latinos, and just enough of the white vote to pull out a win that everybody said was impossible:

At the same time, Reid's get-out-the-vote operation capitalized on Angle's tough stand on illegal immigration to mobilize Hispanics, who turned out at a greater rate than in the 2008 presidential election and voted for Reid, 66-31. And Reid got help from organized labor, as union households voted for him 69-29.

Got that? Reid turned out the Latino vote better than Obama!

Reid didn't try to play moderate. He went in for the base. He ran on jobs, Social Security and tolerance. He didn't have a weak message of "Angle would be obstructionist, and that's not very nice." He said Angle was FRICKIN CRAZY, pure and simple. Reid didnt come with a ridiculous GOP reinforcing argument of "let's go forward, not backward." He made his opponent the subject and not himself, his time in Washington, or the economy. He didn't try to convince people that he was doing them good either. That wouldn't make sense with record foreclosures and unemployment. Reid kept it simple: MY OPPONENT BELONGS IN BELLEVUE, not the Senate. When he needed Obama, he didn't run...he brought him right in. When he needed the First Lady, he brought her right in. No apologies and no avoiding pictures. Reid was right up in Angle's face the moment she won the primary. I wish other Democrats had run with such moxie.



[ Parent ]
Reid survived because his opponent was batshit crazy.
n/t

[ Parent ]
Yeah, except some batshit crazies did win...
You are right, and if she had been more reasonable, the wave would have been against him.

Notice that Reid didn't rely on the bipartisan, "we're Conservative like Republicans only not so crazy" narrative that typifies Obama.


[ Parent ]
Agreed. Good points.
n/t

[ Parent ]
Identify and support Dems
who demand that Republican Teabaggers answer questions like, "What is your solution to problem X?"

As the election neared, I started seeing these questions from reporters and even a couple pundits.  None of the questionees ever answered the question ... because they can't.  They're not interested in solutions.

Democrats need to focus like lasers on this weakness.  Demand that Republican Teabaggers answer that question based on real people's problems, and then point out time and time again that while the Teabaggers have no solutions, Democrats do.  Start building up that narrative now and it will become CW in the next two years.  Employed as part of a larger set of tactics and strategies, 2012 could look very good for us.


Republicans won 30% of voters who wanted more spending for jobs.
Another good DKos post:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...

But what I couldn't understand is how the GOP managed to capture 30% of the votes of the 37% of people who listed their top priority as increasing spending to create jobs. I mean, that is exactly what the stimulus was designed to do; perhaps it emphasized tax cuts too much and perhaps it spent too little, but that was done to win GOP support in the senate. Without Republicans, we'd have spent far more on job creation and they've made opposing the stimulus a cornerstone of their campaign.

So how in the world did they manage to win 30% of votes from people who want to see more federal spending?

Other points:

(1) (which I can't find at fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com) is that for every 1% shift in voter's National Party preference, several House seats flip.

(2) Latinos voting strength continues to increase rapidly in all the Southwestern states. Latinos came out for Harry Reid.

(3) Populist Right Wing Narratives can shift easily to Left Wing Narratives.


Better yet ...
(3) Populist right-wing narratives can shift easily to post-partisan narratives.  The Democrats' failure to grasp that fairly-oblivious fact and act upon it in the 2010 election cycle was a blunder of historic proportion, not just from a political perspective but from a policy perspective as well.

[ Parent ]
Youth Vote Back To Historical Average
Obama and other Democrats, with lots of groundwork laid by the 50-State Strategy, were very effective in targeting younger voters in 2008.  It was a very large blunder to not re-target them in 2010, especially given their heavy 2008 pro-Democratic leanings.  When you purposefully leave supporters on the side, you can't expect to hold back waves.

Older, whiter populations voted in 2010 along historical norms.  In a general sense, if we want to move forward, we can't look to these populations.


[ Parent ]
Do contact me offline, WD.
I think you have my email, if not, Bill McC does.

[ Parent ]
Sent you an email. n/t


[ Parent ]
So you say
We, as Democrats, failed to fire up our base.

?

Couldn't it also be argued that the Democratic base WAS fired up and then our elected leaders or who we hoped would be our elected leaders let us down? Obama let us down. The whole Bennet travesty let us down. How long do Democrats have to stay fired up when we are constantly having it proved to us that we were duped?


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