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Corporatists Try To Set Post-Election Narrative

by: WeatherDem

Tue Nov 02, 2010 at 16:17:11 PM MST


There will be more navel-gazing than anybody wants after tonight as the 2010 election results are reported and analyzed.  Part of that process is establishing and controlling narratives.  One group is already trying to set the stage to get their narrative established: Third Way.

Count me among the Democrats who thinks that there is too much corporate control over policy and elections - both in the Democratic Party and in politics in general.  Third Way, as Markos wrote earlier today, is more corporate-friendly than the DLC.  The narrative Third Way wants to establish is that Democrats, especially those elected in the 2008 cycle, went too far to the left.  They're advocating a "return to the center":

it "is crucial for Democrats to return to the center with bold and bipartisan policy solutions that are realistic in the next Congress and resonate with moderates and Independents."

The Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC) has fired back a response, based on their efforts in one Congressional District, already (good for them):

"If the corporate-funded Third Way candidate had won this primary [NH-02], Democrats would have lost this seat," said Stephanie Taylor, PCCC co-founder. "But because Ann Kuster won this primary and campaigned hard on popular progressive issues, voters were inspired -- and Democrats stand on the verge of winning this race in a typically Republican district in a typically Republican year.

I don't think I can emphasize the following enough times: much of our politics is no longer about left vs. right; it's about people vs. corporations.  Democrats didn't lunge to the left in the past two years; if they did, more Democratic registered voters would be likely voters this year.  Democrats, in my opinion, did lunge too far toward corporations during the past two years.

WeatherDem :: Corporatists Try To Set Post-Election Narrative
Too many decisions, negotiations and giveaways were made influenced and controlled based on what corporations wanted.  Too few of the same were controlled based on what the people wanted.  On issue after issue, the true center position is held squarely by the liberal, pro-people viewpoint.  The primary problem with how Democrats governed in 2009-2010 wasn't that they pushed too far to the left; it was that they got pushed too far toward the pro-corporate end too many times.  The secondary problem was that they didn't effectively communicate the pro-people policies that they were able to enact.

If Democrats lose as much ground as the pre-election polls indicate they will, it will be due more to the fact that a sizable portion of voters decided they didn't get the job done they were hired to do.  If the remaining, and new, Democrats listen to groups like Third Way, they are likely to draw the incorrect conclusion of what the results of this election meant.

So I'm adding my small voice to Markos': running faster toward even more corporate influence and control is the exact wrong thing to do in 2011-2012, Democrats.  Fight like hell for people in the next two years and Election Night 2012 will look vastly different than Election Night 2010.  Work for your base, which is a majority of Americans.  Ignore as much as possible groups like Third Way, which doesn't have our best interests in mind when they dispense advice and lobby you.

Watch as competing narratives are pushed and evolve in the coming days, weeks and months.  Push the ones that will help the most in electing progressive candidates in 2012 and beyond.  Call out those which won't.

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Perfectly stated, WeatherDem
I don't think I can emphasize the following enough times: much of our politics is no longer about left vs. right; it's about people vs. corporations.

I've been emphasizing the same point repeatedly as well. Unfortunately, an alarmingly high percentage of people seem trapped in the narrow mindset of viewing the political landscape as a simplistic left-right tug-of-war, and from that deluded perspective they have very little chance of comprehending what's actually going on and becoming part of the solution.

Thanks also for underscoring the distinction between a true centrist position and corporatist faux centrism. All too many people seem unable or unwilling to grasp that distinction.  

Here's a key strategy that's available and must be pursued: The revelation that this is not a left-vs.-right struggle engenders the opportunity to find common ground all along the traditionally-conceived political spectrum.  For instance, there are many people who self-identify as "tea party" members who actually share these concerns of ours, or at least they would if they had the facts.  I think it's important that we "reach out" to them. I'm not talking about the malevolent demagogues; I'm talking about regular rank-and-file folks who are disaffected and scared. They're not sure what they're scared of, but all they hear is Glenn Beck telling them what to be scared of, so that's what they've come to believe.  But I'm really optimistic that we can turn that around if we do it right. ... And "doing it right" includes abandoning the doctrine of blind party loyalty. If we're going to win this fight, we must put principle above party.

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"Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that." --- Britney Spears, September 2003


Great example ...
of a successful small-scale populist movement that transcended the overly simplistic traditional model of a "left-right" partisan spectrum:

In Larimer County, voters have just fired the two judges who had been involved as prosecutors a decade ago in the murder conviction of Tim Masters, who was recently set free because it was determined that the police and prosecutors had essentially framed him.

The campaign to oust these judges knew no partisan ideological bounds. The forces of entrenched power mounted a counter-offensive, but it was no match for the coalition of regular people across the supposed left-right spectrum who were duly outraged by injustice and abuse of power, and they acted in concert against the forces of entrenched power -- and won.

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"Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that." --- Britney Spears, September 2003


[ Parent ]
Good news
Thanks for bringing it up.

[ Parent ]
Rick Perry's 3 Mill "bonus"
What's three million dollars to be funneled into Rick Perry's campaign?

"What do you do if you're limited to $25,000 contributions from one donor in your state and you need a lot more money to wipe out your Democratic opponent? Here's what:

   * Look for a state where PACs can accept unlimited contributions for campaigns. Michigan is one such state.
   * Set up a PAC called RGA Michigan PAC as a conduit to receive and transmit contributions to out-of-state candidates in unlimited amounts.
   * Wait until October 1, 2010, and send over $3 million dollars to Texas Governor Rick Perry's campaign as an extra added boost for the final month...."

http://crooksandliars.com/karo...


Since I've been invoked by link,
I'll clarify my own (routinely misrepresented) position in relation to the thesis of this diary: I don't think any dichotomy adequately captures the field of political conflict for general purposes, though different dichotomies are useful for different purposes. Certainly "people v. corporations" is a dichotomy that has relevance in many contexts. However, even these two "antagonists" are locked into a non-zero-sum struggle, characterized by a complex tangle of conflicting and coinciding interests.

For general purposes, I favor a framework which conceptualizes the social institutional landscape in terms of nested and overlapping collective action problems, solved to varying degrees through organizational and contractual coalescences, sometimes solved in ways that are antagonistic to the interests of others, and sometimes in ways that are compatible with or contributing to the interests of others, and generally some distribution of both. Analytical tools that are useful for examining this social institutional landscape are game theoretic and other microeconomic models (which capture the nature of the interacting collective action problems) and network analysis (including "biased nets," which captures group coalescence, and a generalized form of epidemiology, which captures network connectivity).

I don't believe that the most useful approach is to make a priori assumptions about how to work with this landscape: The truth is that public support of corporate interests is sometimes antagonistic to the public interest, and sometimes serves the public interest. I agree wholeheartedly that we have erred far too much on the side of favoring corporate interests, even when they are antagonistic to the public interest (e.g., weak environmental protections, and anti-regulatory fervor in general), but I don't think it behooves us to embrace an analytical framework that presupposes that that is necessarily always the case.

We're all in this story together; let's write it well.


Harvey, from now on
If I can stomach it, I will read only your first and last paragraphs. The rest is pointless torture. You could have simply slightly altered your statement "I don't think it behooves us to embrace an analytical framework that presupposes that that is necessarily always the case" and been done with it.

Life is complicated, yes, but the bottom line will always be the bottom line for the entities that are beheld only to the bottom line. Until corporations are made responsible to the entire effect their products have on society, society will always be held captive and serious and deadly effects will be had, all of which adds up (or subtracts, if you will) to an unsustainable future. If corporations were truly culpable and forced to right their wrongs, they would go out of business.  


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I tried that; it seems to work for a while
... until you realize that the first and last paragraphs are just as vacuous and tedious as the rest of his obnoxious grandiose horseshit.

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"Honestly, I think we should just trust our president in every decision that he makes and we should just support that." --- Britney Spears, September 2003


[ Parent ]
As for the ad hominems,
it's a bit absurd that the one most adamant about the pain my posts cause him is also most adamant about continuing to invoke my name or link to my previous posts. Stop indulging your obsession, and I'll gladly leave you to your fantasy world, as I've already told you.

We're all in this story together; let's write it well.

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And what you call "obnoxious grandiose horseshit"
is what people who study the kinds of things you merely pontificate about work with every day. The two 2009 Nobel Prize Winners in Economics, for instance, each worked within the paradigm I described, one (Oliver Williamson) identifying when hierarchies are more economically efficient than markets, and one (Elinor Ostrom) identifying when informal normative arrangements are more efficient than either. It's called "institutional economics," and it's really all about nested and overlapping collective action problems, and how the tension of interests they create generates our social institutional landscape. My real point is that it makes a lot more sense to tap into institutional economics when you're talking about institutional economics than to pretend that the thousands of people who have spent generations researching and modeling the exact dynamics you are interested in have never produced anything that you could possibly learn from.

We're all in this story together; let's write it well.

[ Parent ]
That's not to say that I can't take technology
which is produced by corporations, and go repair some of the damage done by corporations. I suspect harvey may use that as an example of the cooperation and potentially mutually benficial and infinitely nuanced beneficial interworking relationships ;) but, I completely agree with what you say about the bottom line and how, until there are new and healthy priorities, the bottom line will in reality subtract from the greater good, right?  

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It's called
"internalizing externalities," and it's what I've always advocated. As for righting all wrongs, that results in paralysis, and economic paralysis = universal impoverishment. The EPA, for instance, knows that it can't set regulations at "zero contaminants," because no production process yields zero contaminants, and so a standard of zero contaminants results in zero production, which itself ends up costing lives. As I said, we routinely err on the side of being overly solicitous of corporate interests, but that doesn't mean that there is no limit to the utility of being antagonistic to corporate interests.

We're all in this story together; let's write it well.

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