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No Exceptions Caucus - Will They Imprison Women For Having An Abortion?

by: Bill Egnor AKA Something The Dog Said

Tue Sep 21, 2010 at 06:15:19 AM MST


There are five Republican Senate nominees who would outlaw abortion in all cases, no exceptions for rape or incest. You probably know them but I'll list them anyway, Ken Buck (here  the great State of Colorado), Sharron Angle, Christine O'Donnell, Joe Miller and Rand Paul (real freaking Libertarian of you there Rand, how do you sleep at night with that level of hypocrisy weighing you down?) . This is what the Tea Party has brought us, people who believe that no matter what the Supreme Court has said time and again there abortion should be illegal and should have no exceptions for health or criminality.

It all seems to be part of their toughness shtick. Where everything is a life and death fight and they will take any position to the maximal and then declare that it is main stream. I love  this tactic when it is my seven year old nephew and he insists he is a super-hero just because he says so, but it is more than a little frightening in someone who could be a United States Senator and be one for the next six years, at least.  

Bill Egnor AKA Something The Dog Said :: No Exceptions Caucus - Will They Imprison Women For Having An Abortion?
Still it works, like so many Republican policy prescriptions work on the campaign trail, just as long as it is not questioned too closely. For people who oppose abortion a lot of effort has been made to demonize the doctors who perform this legal procedure. They are the ones duping the poor pregnant women into making the choice to terminate their abortion. This is how it has become acceptable in the more fringe groups to commit terrorist acts (let's not candy coat it, killing doctors in their own churches is an act of terror no matter who does it or why) .

To put this in the proper perspective we need to ask what these candidates would propose if they got their fondest wish and all abortion would be outlawed. What happens to the women who would seek out these services? We know that they will, before abortion was legalized women still had them and died from complications in numbers every single year. We can be sure they would be willing to punish anyone performing the abortion, but given the rhetoric that abortion is murder will these five candidates be willing to say they would support felony prosecutions for women that have abortions?  Murder generally carries a long prison sentence, are they willing to put teenagers and women with children they can't care for already in prison for a decade or more because they don't want a child or another child?

There is also the issue of birth control. Ken Buck believes that life begins at conception, so does that mean he would outlaw methods of birth control which prevent the implantation of the fertilized ovum? I don't know about ya'll but I have two parents who both had 12 brothers and sisters from playing Vatican Roulette and I sure as hell do not want to go back to that.

This is the framing we need to put on this issue. If they crazed Right is really serious about making abortion illegal, then five new hard and insanely anti-choice Republican Senators is the way to do it. If all five of these candidates were elected that is 5% of the Senate who will judge every single Supreme Court nomination through the lens of abortion rights repeal. Given the number of already hard right Republican Senators it could make a huge difference.

It is time to throw a little cold water on the heated rhetoric of the Tea Party candidates. They are getting a free ride on far too many social issues from the economic anger that is fueling this election. These folks are not new fiscal conservatives who have just popped up in response to Right Wing anger, they are long time party activists who have the same regressive social agenda that we have been fighting since Regan was president.

If you are in any of the states which these candidates are running it is time to try to ask them if they would imprison women who have abortions. I am going to try to get Ken Buck on record as to what he will do, who can help me get the rest?

This is a really bad issue for these candidates. Everyone on the anti-choice side is willing to punish doctors, but most folks can imagine or know someone who has had to have an abortion for some reason. They can intellectualize the incredibly draconian nature of imprisoning a woman for having an abortion. This is the kind of thing that moderate Republicans and Independent voters hear and it reminds them why they left the party or voted against it in previous elections. If we can get it out there it can blunt some of the momentum the Tea Party insanity has provided for the Republicans.

If we can make it clear how extreme this crowd really is, if they are so zealous about their anti-choice position that they are willing to lock up women who seek abortions, then we should make them live with the voters knowing that and making it part of their decision to vote for or against this Nov. 2nd.

The floor is yours  

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Ah yes, my FAVORITE non-issue
I call it a non-issue because it wouldn't exist if men and women were truly equal but I'll put that aside for a minute.

A friend of mine pointed out to me that if abortion was ever really outlawed, politicians like the ones you mention would lose a very important and fired up constituency that helps to push their votes over the threshold needed to win. If abortion was outlawed, that would all go away. The pro-life Christians are a pigskin in political football. And to think, they're convinced their issue is so important but just like their souls by their religion, they're being duped while costing the rest of a lot of time and energy that could be better spent doing things like actualizing and empowering one another or picking lint out of our belly buttons.

I don't think Buck, O'Donnell, Angle, or Rand Paul would go forward with a serious action to outlaw abortion and birth control. It would abort an important part of their crybaby constituency.  


Frankly I don't care if they would act on it or not.
I only care if they are zealous enough to say that women who have them should be imprisoned if it is made illegal. It is framing at this point, not policy.  

Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain.  

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They'll never say women they'll imprison women becuase they aren't seriously against abortion


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What About a Miscarriage?
In El Salvador where there are no exceptions for abortion, many women have been imprisoned.  And any woman who is known to have lost her pregnancy for any reason is subject to intrusive medical inspection at a time of intense mourning.  It is simply outrageous, and there is no doubt that are prosecutors in the US who would not hesitate to insist on the same things for women in this country.  This is not a 'nonissue', it can be deadly serious for any woman of child bearing age.

Vote no on 62


Yep, especially as something like 1 in 3 pregnancies
ends in miscarriage. Just think of the tax cost of investigating all those miscarriages.  

Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain.  

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