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"Punishing Democrats" A Bad Move All The Way Around

by: Bill Egnor AKA Something The Dog Said

Tue Sep 14, 2010 at 06:31:06 AM MST


There are a lot of angry people in the American electorate. There are the Tea Party folks who think that there has been some kind of revolution and they are in danger of losing their country (even though the country they imagine they were part of never really existed). They are fired up and they intend to vote for some of the most radically reactionary candidates in decades. They have helped nominate folks like Sharon Angle who believes that unemployment insurance is a bad thing, and thinks that it is not a huge problem if conservatives resort to so-called "Second Amendment remedies", basically armed insurrection.

Then there are another group of angry folks, this time on the Left. They were the ones who suffered through eight years of Republican lawlessness and were inspired by the promise of change the Obama campaign offered. Many feel betrayed by the fact that change has not been as intense as they imagined. They point, with good reason, to the promises made by the President on issues like Health Care reform and the reality of what the legislative process gave us. No public option, lots of compromise and a bill that while it does good things for some is not the kind of transformational change that the Left (myself included) wanted.  

Bill Egnor AKA Something The Dog Said :: "Punishing Democrats" A Bad Move All The Way Around

I always thought the change meme was a dangerous one. It suffers from a lack of operational definition. If you say change to ten people you will get ten different expectations of change. If you say "we're going to have a change from the past but not a radical one" you still get different views of what that is. This led to wide and high expectations from many people (again myself included) and was always going to make the failures and compromises seem more galling than normal.

The mood among many on the left (not all, surely but many) is pretty down beat. There is talk here and there about sending a message to punishing the Democrats for their failures. The thing about this meme is that it assumes that all Democrats are the same. This could not be further from the truth. We have a wide range of views in our caucus and folks like Senator Bernie Sanders should not be punished for the actions of marginal Democrats like Senator Ben Nelson or Sen. Joe "I hate the Liberals" Lieberman. Both of them are in our caucus and through their actions the whole of the party gets painted with a negative brush.

There is another problem with this meme of apathy or out right vindictive desire to punish Democrats. The weight of not voting for Dems will fall on the House of Representatives and not where the blame belongs, in the Senate. There are a total of 34 Senate races this cycle compared the to the 435 House seats that will be contested. If there is a real protest vote or a lack of turn out by Democrats the numbers say that there will be far more damage in the House than the Senate.

This matters because the House Democrats have been working for change. The watering down of everything from the stimulus to HCR to financial reform has come in the Senate not the House. If the Republicans can take control of the House then the starting point for the Senates watering down will be that much further to the right.

We don't have to guess what that would mean. We know from the statements of the Republicans who would be committee chairs that they will not want to help the middle class. They will not want to spend money on infrastructure or unemployment benefits. They will try to defund the HCR plan and are already expressing a willingness to shut down the Federal government if the President stands up to them on these issues.

Perhaps more importantly they will spend much of their time in witch hunting with a return to the thousands of subpoenas just like when President Clinton was in office. They will not spend their time on the peoples work but rather make the next two years an attempt to smear President Obama with the slightest of scandals. All this to set up the 2012 election cycle where they hope to take back the White House with the likes of Sara Palin or Tim Pawlenty

Anger is a tough thing to control. It is hot and sweet and once you get to used to it, there is a need to keep feeding it. It also tends to cloud our thinking. When one is angry it is easy to lash out and harm our own self interest. This is not the time to give in to anger and disappointment. Change takes time. Fundamental and long lasting change takes even more time and effort.  The Republicans took over the House in 1994 but they did not manage the get their fondest wishes for another six years. They had the advantage of a good and growing economy for most of that time. Democrats have only had real control for four years and in that time the policies of the Republican wrecking crew have crashed our economy and left us to deal with the mess.

For those who think that things can't change without a major shift I will say that I agree. The thing is that there is no chance that casting a protest vote and having the Democrats lose power will make that more likely. We only replaced a net of 21 Representatives in 2008 and many of them were from conservative districts where the president's coattails and fired up electorate made that possible. Real change will require cycling long term conservative Democrats in the House and especially in the Senate. This means we have to show that the base is behind the Democratic candidates, even when things are tough. Any other action will just confirm what habitually nervous Dems think, namely that they have to court Republican or conservative Independent voters.

It is a crappy thing to have to support folks who we feel have let us down. It feels dirty and like compromise. But this is the wrong way to look at it. Think of it as investment in the future. By helping the Democrats keep their majorities we do two things. First off we prevent the horrible and clearly destructive policies of the radical Republicans from being the starting place for compromise (and we really should not underestimate just how damaging they can and will be) . Second we give the Democratic Party a chance to hang on and continue to flex what feeble muscle they are able to. It is the cumulative affect of the small changes that will be enacted which will get us to the goals of more liberal policy.

If we let our anger and disappointment keep us from the ballot box or from voting for Democrats then we will surely give up any chance of starting the momentum that will lead the kind of change all of us envisioned in 2008. We are not like the Republicans who are a top down and highly disciplined party. That has never been the Democratic Party way and it never will be. After all Will Rogers said


"I don't belong to an organized political party, I am a Democrat".

If we want to get change and good liberal policy out of our party we will have to do it the slow way.

So now you all have a choice. You can set your sights on change knowing that the best vehicle for it is going to be slow and frustrating or you can vote your anger and despair and let the Republicans continue to ravage this nation and trample the constitution. In this election there is no third choice. With a fired up base anything but a vote for Democrats is a de facto vote for a return of the Republicans.

The floor is yours.  

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And, Then There Is the State Election
Not voting, means we will lose in 2010: the Governorship (this can happen, what if Maes or Tancredo drops out in late October?), the SOS, the AG, Treasurer and, possibly, the legislature as well as some of our safest Congressional seats.  

Not voting to "punish the DNC" will likely see passage of some very awful, truly job removing, constitutional amendments, as well as embryo person hood and Colorado opt-out of Health Care.

Regaining an elected US Senate seat is not an easy task.  We usually have to wait until the holder dies or voluntarily retires.  We won Udall's seat because Allard retired and we fought a difficult campaign. We won Bennet's seat because Ben Nighthorse Campbel retired and Salazar (who won a close election against a very wealthy right wing Republican with lots of name recognition) accepted national appointed office. We did not win those seats because we ran an "acceptable" candidate in a statewide election.

We have come a long way in Colorado since 2000.  It is really time to work to get some of the pie so we can have something to reach toward in the future.


State elections more important
I think it's ridiculous that House Democrats will likely bear the brunt of the frustration, anger and apathy that Democratic voters bear this year.  In a fair world, that wouldn't be the case.  The Senate is a broken entity and most of the people that purposefully kept it broken this session are those who will not be held accountable this election year.  By the time those Senators are back up for reelection, it will be impossible to relate to the public why they don't deserve their positions of power.

Not voting at all isn't the answer.  As saindenver writes above, the races that I think count the most this year are the Governor's and the State Legislature.  The State Legislature is an absolute must for Democrats in 2010 because the party in charge of it will control how Colorado's redistricting post-2010 census will occur.  We know how the Cons will treat it; it will be a repeat of their immoral shenanigans after the 2000 census.

Where I might split with Bill and saindenver is my assessment of why voters won't vote.  Readers, commenters and diarists at this site (and others like it) are among the most tapped-in folks possible.  It's highly likely that a majority of our friends and family and acquaintances don't follow politics with as much interest as we do.  The reason they might not vote in November likely isn't to send a message to the DNC; it is liklier that they want to send a message to the current crop of office holders.  I think the trick is going to be to get them to vote for those critical down ballot races, even if they're fed up with the top ballot politicians.

Of course, if those politicians really wanted votes bad enough to win this November, there are things they could have done that would have kept their base motivated.  Chasing after the fringe right and preemptive capitulation aren't base-motivators.  That was their choice, not ours.


The Dropoff From the Top of the Ticket Is >20%
I think the trick is going to be to get them to vote for those critical down ballot races, even if they're fed up with the top ballot politicians.

If you do an analysis of voter behavior, you will find a 20-30% drop-off in voting below the top one or two lines on the ballot. I just don't think anyone will go to the trouble of voting down ballot if he or she decides not to vote for the top. It may be possible for highly motivated voters, but I think that they are very few and far between.  If our voters don't come out for the top, they won't come out for anyone else. So kiss the state legislature goodbye along with a possible Governor Hickenlooper.


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And, That Is Why I'm Very Disappointed in the Losing Senatorial Activists' Behavior


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I'm voting down ticket but not for Bennet
and I'm not alone. What he did with DPS was too incompetent. He can't even take responsibility for it. I'm sorry. I really am but I just can't muster a reason to feel okay about it. I'm abstaining from that race.  

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I Hope You Do
Not all will, however; hence my skeptical pessimism.

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I Hope You Do
Not all will, however; hence my skeptical pessimism.

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Aware of the dropoff
and that's why it will be a trick to get enough people to do it to make a difference.

But you point out the crux of the problem:

I just don't think anyone will go to the trouble of voting down ballot if he or she decides not to vote for the top.

We can't do the heavy lifting of convincing soft-support Dems to vote for politicians who, by their own actions, send the message that their interests aren't important.  It's incredibly difficult to try to convince people that if the wishy-washy Dems are re-elected, they'll truly get done what they didn't do the first time.

I'm just not sure that telling people the state legislature will turn Con will be enough to generate enthusiasm for the top of the ticket.


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Maybe the Top Isn't That Bad?
After all, Senator Bennet has not been a raving teabagger.  In fact, he's voted for much of the progressive agenda.  I know how angry some are, but he didn't steal the primary, he won it using about $6 million in funds.  

Yes, many are justifiably angry with our President and his DNC for their behavior in the primary.  But will losing the Senate seat tell the President anything?  Voting in new party officials may be more effective.


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re: Sadly, I can't agree
I can no longer hold my nose and vote for a Blue Dog. This is particularly true in CO 03 where I live. I cannot and will not vote for another DINO without any positive reason for doing so. I will vote for the Green candidate  in the US Senate race and write in if possible in the CO 03 line. My verdict is still out on Howdy Hickenlooper. I will write in for Kathleen Curry who resigned from the CO Dems when she could no longer stomach the direction of strategy. Thanks to Barry One-Term for opening my eyes.

It is not about supporting them it is all about
what the choice is. I agree Blue Dogs have done nothing to earn our support, however the insanity of the alternative requires that we don't allow them in power.

If there were rational Republican choices it might not be so bad, but there are not. You would be voting to let the nuts regain control of the insane asylum. If you don't like the way Blue Dogs have done things you will hate the way their Republican replacements will act.  

Getting Democrats together and keeping them that way is like herding cats that are high on meth, through L.A., during an earthquake, in the rain.  


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no I still can and will not
I can and will not play into the cynical calculation of Rahm and the DLC. Gibbs' sneering dismissal of the "professional left" was exemplary of this triangulaton and the emptiness of their stance. More recently, Biden played the fear card on the Rachel Maddow, whining about the economy that Obama had inherited and painting an apocalyptic scenario of loss of the super majorities the Dens had following the 08 election. I do not think that I need remind any reader here of how totally that momentous opportunity has been squandered by Democratic leaders. When a Democratic VPOTUS must use scare tactics to motivate us, rather than point to achievements and future agenda,then I know that the time has come for me to look elsewhere for a means to bring my hopews and dreams to fruition!

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No,
I will not support Michael Bennet or any other corporate "Blue Dog" ever again, because they do not support my values. Period.  I will not accept the assumption that the only choice is between the lesser of two evils -- because I do not support evil.

This is not a right-vs.-left conflict. This is a plutocracy-vs.-democracy conflict.  (I myself am a centrist -- a real centrist, not a corporate faux-centrist like Michael Bennet and his ilk.) If we don't purge these scoundrels now, when will we? Condoning their agenda with our vote is certainly not a step in that direction.  


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