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Is the "Decline" of Environmentalism a Good Thing for Democrats?

by: Keshawn

Mon Jan 09, 2012 at 15:38:17 PM MST


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In 2008 I was feeling tentatively optimistic about the climate. Every show I watched on Discovery was about how to live more "green" and they even went so far as to launch their own network on the subject. Certainly we were going to do something about climate change in this country, right?

Fast forward three years and barely anyone talks about the environment anymore. In fact a survey taken showed disbelief in the science to be steadily climbing as the economy got worse. Basically people didn't want to pay to fix the environment, but didn't want to say that. Instead people decided they didn't believe in climate change. After Copenhagen, it was pretty clear that no one was willing to go to bat on the climate.

As someone who is new to politics in Colorado, this leads me to wonder whether this will turn out to be a positive development for Democrats in the state. If the climate is pretty much off the table and the environment is a non-issue, doesn't this clear off a point of contention for a mining state? Will those that are relatively inclined to vote Democrat, but put off by threats to their mining employment for example be comforted that no one is really even mentioning the environment these days?

Does the Democratic disinterest in this issue bode well for Democrats in Colorado?

Keshawn :: Is the "Decline" of Environmentalism a Good Thing for Democrats?
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Win for the Koch Brothers and Big Energy
When your "Democratic" Governor says this, "I think we should drill the living daylights out of natural gas and cut regulation" then you have completely lost the issue. Enemies of the environment and sensible regulation have probably won -- at least for the time being -- which may be all the time you had to balance extraction and economic pressures with the needs of society to live in a healthy and stable environment.

You Have a Point
When a Democratic governor is an applied geologist by education and early career training, he needs to be watched and challenged.  I know he wants to eliminate regulations in the oil and gas industry, but this can be prevented through legislative action.  He can do some by fiat, but this can be stopped by the senate.  It's one of the reasons we need to elect as favorable as possible legislature this year and to watch the sitting one with great intensity.

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Environmentalism Is Losing to Jobs
The false meme that jobs and industry must take the place of clean water, air and land, is becoming more and more accepted as true by a lot of Coloradans.  The simple fact is that responsible extraction and industrial activity is good business and can create many, many jobs is pooh-poohed by our media and by those who benefit from weakened regulations.  The fact is that a company making an investment of $4-6 million and which destroys an aquifer forever when half its fracking water ends up there is taking economic advantage of the rest of us and should be prevented from doing so or be made to pay the full cost of cleanup or replacement.  A company whose actions of disposing of their fracking water into a deep, non-productive oil or gas well which causes an earthquake should be made to pay for it.  This can't be done if the company uses bankruptcy law to escape responsibility; it can be done with regulation and filing bonds.

The problem is that the majority of voters simply don't understand this balance.  And, I think it's the job of all of us who do to educate those who do not.  Otherwise, we'll be buying our water in plastic bottles from the Bush family.


Given the choice
between economic concerns and environmental concerns, economic concerns will always be addressed.  Whether that choice actually exists is another topic altogether - I don't believe that it's that stark a choice as often as it is presented.

If we want environmental concerns addressed, we have to find ways to tuck them into policy solutions meant to address other problems that seem more real.  An information deficit doesn't exist in the public, contrary to what I used to think.  If we work to solve other problems, the environment can and will be a beneficiary.


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What about other industries?
Extractive industries certainly hold a good deal of sway in this state, as Gov. Hickerlooper's & others' actions clearly show.

But what about tourism and sportspeople?  Those industries bring in extremely large sums of money to the state.  If they're made to suffer, I can't see the extractive industries maintaining that condition for very long.  There are simply too many people that sincerely enjoy the resources of Colorado in ways that don't involve extraction.


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